In this episode of Lunch with Leaders, host <a href="%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0https://www.linkedin.com/in/adaeze-iloeje-udeogalanya%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0">Adaeze Iloeje-Udeogalanya⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> interviews psychologist<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ncazelo-ncube-49412751/"> Ncazelo Ncube-Milo</a>.Internationally recognized for her culturally sensitive trauma work, Ncazelo discusses the global impact of the Tree of Life methodology, now used in 30+ countries.The conversation explores narrative healing, the power of storytelling in recovery, and how reclaiming cultural identity leads to personal transformation. This episode offers a unique perspective on leadership through community healing and the "re-authoring" of one's life story in 2026. Who is this for?This content is for mental health professionals, community leaders, and women in STEM seeking culturally sensitive approaches to healing.It is relevant for those dealing with trauma or identity challenges who want to move beyond "problem-saturated" narratives and reconnect with their inherent strengths. Timestamps01:29 – Intro to Ncazelo Ndlovu and her international trauma work.03:51 – Origins of the Tree of Life methodology in Zimbabwe.05:57 – The Tree metaphor: Roots, Heritage, and Hopes.07:51 – What is Narrative Therapy? Moving beyond the "problem story."09:36 – Reconnecting with "second stories" and personal agency.11:54 – Previewing the workshop for women in STEM.14:48 – The power of witnessing and communal healing.35:42 – Closing remarks and how to support the mission. FAQsWhat is the Tree of Life methodology?A counseling tool using tree metaphors to help people talk about their strengths and heritage without being overwhelmed by trauma.How does Narrative Therapy differ from traditional therapy?It helps individuals separate themselves from their problems and find "alternative stories" of hope and skill.Can this work in professional settings?Yes. Ncazelo helps leaders rediscover their "magic sauce" and align their work with core values. Action StepsMap Your Roots: Write down the traditions and people that make you strong.Identify Your "Second Story": Intentionally look for a story of a time you were successful or hopeful when facing a problem.Practice Witnessing: Listen to a colleague's story without judgment, focusing on their demonstrated strengths.Join the Workshop: Participate in the upcoming Tree of Life session to experience narrative healing firsthand.Audit Your Narrative: Ask yourself, "Is the story I'm telling right now bringing me hope or keeping me stuck?"

Ncazelo Ncube-Milo: A Culturally Sensitive Approach to Trauma and Narrative Healing

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